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<div class="cit ref-cit ref-journal" id="cit-34.6.E70.1"><div class="cit-metadata"><ol class="cit-auth-list"><li><span class="cit-auth"><span class="cit-name-surname">McAuliffe</span>  <span class="cit-name-given-names">W</span></span>, </li><li><span class="cit-auth"><span class="cit-name-surname">Kermode</span>  <span class="cit-name-given-names">AG</span></span></li></ol><cite>. <span class="cit-article-title">Mystery of chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency: identical venographic and ultrasound findings in patients with MS and controls</span>. <abbr class="cit-jnl-abbrev">AJNR Am J Neuroradiol</abbr> <span class="cit-month">January</span> <span class="cit-day">31</span>, <span class="cit-pub-date">2013</span>. <span class="cit-comment">[Epub ahead of print]</span></cite></div><div class="cit-extra"></div></div></li><li><span class="ref-label">2.</span><a class="rev-xref-ref" href="#xref-ref-2-1" title="View reference 2. in text" id="ref-2">↵</a>

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